Posts by Anna Marina

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What to say to WT Publishers

by Anna Marina in

on bbc radio this morning there was a 20 minute piece on jws and the child abuse cover up.

i am already receiving reaction to it from a number of sources.

it occurred to me - if you were giving ordinary members of the public a steer on how to deal with wt publishers what would you advise?.

Anna Marina

On BBC Radio this morning there was a 20 minute piece on JWs and the child abuse cover up. I am already receiving reaction to it from a number of sources.

It occurred to me - if you were giving ordinary members of the public a steer on how to deal with WT publishers what would you advise?

I would explain that the name Jehovah is only the English pronunciation of God's name. In Hebrew God's name is written as 4 letters and is known as the Tetragrammaton. Others, such as the Catholics pronounce the Tetragrammaton as Yahweh.

Jehovah is the name of God the Father, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It was He who sent His Son, Jesus Christ to buy us back from sin and death.

Watchtower publisher don't serve Jesus Christ and His Father. So if you go up to them and say, "when are you going to return to Jehovah?" it might make them think because that is such a key phrase to them. On the other hand it might just annoy them. But that'd be quite funny.

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Quit Quietly now more than ever

by gone for good in

the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).

Anna Marina

There is someone who has faded BUT recently had to leave the country to escape WT.

Another thing - they are all locked up in their homes. Usually they are out standing sheepishly or arrogantly beside a trolley full of literature that no one wants. If they are not doing that they are tootling around housing estates either getting caught on householder's CCTV, or starting, what they imaginatively call, free home Bible studies. Or both.

Unable to persue their usual modus operandi, they are contacting those who have faded and I can report that locally there has been success. Someone has swallowed the bait.

A fader will have faded for a reason. But if you go back you find yourself in a radically different environment to that which you left. Now you either accept their ways or go immediately, no fade.

Also as lockdown eases, they are off out again. I am just waiting to see pictures of them, wearing face masks on electric scooters or segways with sandwich boards strapped on them. Or maybe just the magnetic trolley sign stuck on the front of their scooter. Look out for them at Halloween, you never know they might do a cracking trolley sign in pumkin orange with the phrase 'is Satan real?' written all over it.

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Quit Quietly now more than ever

by gone for good in

the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).

Anna Marina

Thank you for explaining Gone for Good. I was hurt, but not now :)

The reason why I do what I do is related to that Achilles heel, but I know I can't bring the Watchtower down.

For whatever reason, I am and always have been immune to the Watchtower's worst tricks. However, I can imagine the crisis that it puts some people into and if I can say anything to help and console such ones I will. What has happened to them IS NOT THEIR FAULT.

Watchtower can break your faith, your sanity and your powers of reason. The bottom line is, Watchtower does this through arithmetic (the use of numbers) or as some call it maths. Incidentally, the disciples in Greek are called the mathete, it means learner. This is all to do with knowledge and the ability to take information in and process it in a sound and proper manner. Watchtower stops all that. Sound thinking must be a basic human right. This organisation robs people of their minds. If banks get done for miselling financial products, maybe one day someone with get it, that this advertising/media company is miselling verbal products/trust. Its a con trick. It destroys more than your life and your natural ability to love. It destroys your mind, while leaving you alive to be their puppet and destroy the lives of others.

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When did WT lose the spirit?

by Smiles in

at what time would you say that the watch tower schema lost the spirit?.

like the ancient nation of israel which struggled maintaining divine blessing due to a long series of grave errors that eventually culminated in definitive loss... how and when did watch tower lose the spirit?.

can we pinpoint a time or event?.

Anna Marina

A city can be assessed by the number of transactions that take place in it and the type of transactions. Collectively the individual members of the city have generally shared aspirations. .

Each congregation is made up of individuals, depending on the mix in the congregations you get more or less genuine Christians - as you do anywhere or in any denomination.

Jesus said this

(Matthew 18:20) . . .For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.”

I joined a lovely congregation but over time it changed. The sister congregation was not recognisable as Christian.

Jesus had God's Holy Spirit and he is the head of the Christian congregation. He never gave it to the Watchtower. Those in union with Jesus are individuals not corporate (which means body) entities. The body is Jesus Christ.

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Watchtower Sudy 12 July.the Kings of North & South (from 05/20 issue)

by BluesBrother in

it is a challenge next sunday for them .

due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).

this article makes a grand claim in par 2.

Anna Marina

Jesus Christ held the prophet Daniel in high esteem.

(Matthew 24:15-16) . . .“Therefore, when YOU catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader use discernment,) 16 then let those in Ju‧de′a begin fleeing to the mountains.

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Quit Quietly now more than ever

by gone for good in

the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).

Anna Marina

Harder.

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Quit Quietly now more than ever

by gone for good in

the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).

Anna Marina

People choose what they are interested in. I am not trying to win a court case.

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Quit Quietly now more than ever

by gone for good in

the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).

Anna Marina

Love to know how it affects me. I wrote to GB - I have proof my letter was received by London Bethel (signed for) and tracking for the same letter sent to USA.

I by-passed the Service Desk by doing a password protected website for the GB with a personal request from me to correct their false teaching or show me where I was wrong, using scriptures. I said they had x3 month or else I would consider them to be in opposition to Jehovah.

This is one of the pages of my website.

http://olam30.co.uk/key/index.php

This is the way forward I gave them.

http://olam30.co.uk/key/d11_way_forward.php

I was called to a judicial twice but I did not attend. I made it clear to the elders on a number of occasions that the action they were taking against me was wrong and should be called off immediately. They ran rough-shod over me. I knew they would but I gave them fair warning to back up their trucks.

I also wrote about 50 individually addressed letters to members of the local congregations (those who had got to know me), and informed them what was happening to me.

Some of them shun me now but not all.

Since this we had to change our window cleaner. He was part of the judicial committee.

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Court confirms:--Severe Criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses is Justified!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

court confirms: severe criticism of jehovah's witnesses is justified!.

https://docdro.id/axa555i.

petra!.

Anna Marina

Hi Beth Sarim - glad someone else has noticed this.

Lot of people overlook things like Dada, comedy and clowning.These are all in Watchtower's toolbox.

The very first step is to slightly confuse you, make you think THEY are more intelligent/more in touch with God/better than you (that is what aristocracy means - better (aristo) power (cracy)), then get you to wait till you understand things better. Or until you have made progress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yHJMPw8RHU

Watchtower is a mantrap for Christians. A key part of the trap is that once they have slightly confused you on what appears a trivial issue which can be overlooked, they encourage you to ask questions.

BUT THE QUESTIONS ARE NEVER ANSWERED. Oh yes they'll get answered tomorrow when there's some new light from the aristocracy that is the GB. But tomorrow never comes and if there is new light, it is just new gobbledigook. AND YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISAGREE WITH THAT GOBBLEDIGOOK.

It is like a chidren't game called Simple Simon Says. Everyone has to do what Simple Simon says or you are out.

But Christians are supposed to do what Jesus Christ says. Not Simple Simon. Or Simple anyone else.

Watchtower not only hijacks thinking ability, they hijack your moral compass. The one you are born with, your natural sense of right and wrong and your natural sense of love.

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Court confirms:--Severe Criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses is Justified!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

court confirms: severe criticism of jehovah's witnesses is justified!.

https://docdro.id/axa555i.

petra!.

Anna Marina

Also, freedom from false arithmetic. Watchtower attacks mathematics and attempts to get you to abandon your powers of reason so you can no longer add up sums.

Watchtower doesn't just attack the Bible it attacks the fundamental thinking ability of Mankind.

Watchtower wants freedom from sense. They want nonsense.